Procedure Upgrading Processor from PM510 to PM511 in AC450

hi, what are the things to be taken care for upgradating Processor PM510 to PM511v in AC450.
is there any procedure please share it.

thanks

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Hi again.

Without going in to every small detail here it's an very easy and safe upgrade.

You simply backup your system via DB & PC source code, and note down the dimensioning values.
Power of the controller and replace the PM510 with PM511.
You may remove the CI540 source code from the DB source code to avoid an error as it is no longer supported with PM511.
Also remove the CI540 (and the MB510 for the program card) from the rack as well
My recommendation is to create a new node in parallel in the Application builder for the New PM511 & latest 4.0 SW version and move the DB & PC source code there.

Then you power on, make a cold start, you dimension the DB & PC and you start to load, first the DB followed by PC application

If you use S100 I/O you also have to upgrade the DSCB 173A bus extender boards to DSBC174 (for redundant bus) or DSBC176
and you have to Activate the BE DB Elements elements for each existing rack, each DSBC 176 have to be addressed individually, see the manual.

If your customer is using SC520 carrier boards for MB300, they must be replaced (or upgraded) to latest version.
The SC520 version originally used together with PM510 CPU does not work properly with PM511

Then Diconfig and deblock programs, and save the new user disk files to target system, and finally take a new DUAP

Best Regards
Jan-Erik

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Jan-Erik Rask Rank: 81

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Hello Sir.

I will reply to you by mail.

BR

JER

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Jan-Erik Rask Rank: 81

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Thank you Jan-Erik for helpful info.

In addition to what Jan-Erik wrote let me add few notes:
- more than obvious: always make DUAP backup before switching off existing system to have safe way back
- make printouts of settings in APP and MSTABS online commands in existing system
- make DUDBS with option - /OUTPUT that saves also actual values from DATs , AOCs, PIDCON/A constants , etc.
since AC450 logic can be developed in tricky way that some process constants are stored in DATs for reading only
- I suggest to do printscreens from all live graphics to be able to fill back process setpoints just in case
- in the new CPU , configure APP and MSTABS before DIMDB and DIMPC

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by Jan-Erik Rask Rank: 81 on 9/30/2020 6:23:52 AM | Like (0) | Report

Just a few comments.
APP is not officially supported in standard Advant, only in RMC where changes are applied by default.
A manual MSTABS should not be needed in version of CBA released within the last 10 -15 years as it should auto increase the symbol table file if needed,
but yes, you could always check it and reduce the size of the user disk storage if to large in DIMDB.
MSTABS does not do anything in the controller, its just the size of the PCMASS.SM file.
And yes, DUDBS / OUTPUT is always useful, but first check with the customer how the application is developed.
PID values are normally included in todays source code, and no separate doc is needed.
Storing variables only in DAT should be avoided, but if used as do as you say.

by ASN Rank: 383 on 10/1/2020 12:03:18 AM | Like (0) | Report

Thanks for your time and knowledge share mr. Kamil & Mr.Jan -Erik .. It will be helpful for us in future upgrdations.. all the things will be taken care.. Thanks again..!! :-)

by ASN Rank: 383 on 10/6/2020 6:38:42 AM | Like (0) | Report

Hi, is it upgradation of processor from PM510 to PM511 will reduce the controller load(system load)..

by Jan-Erik Rask Rank: 81 on 10/13/2020 1:28:55 AM | Like (0) | Report

Hello ASN. There is no real difference in system load between PM510 and PM511, the best way to reduce the load is to use SC520 carrier board(s) for CS513 MB300 communication. If not already in use. They may reduce the load as much as 30 percent in a large redundant MB300 network with heavy communication, and they will also eliminate the risk for an AC450 overload controller stall caused by something excessive/abnormal network traffic. as all network tasks are executed on SC520 and not in the main CPU. Be aware that you must use slave number 1 to 6 on the CS513 and not Slave nr 7 and 8. which are dedicated for SC510 carrier board.
If you use slave nr 7 or 8 in combination with SC520 you will not take advantage of the SC520 CPU and it will act as a SC510 carrier board. BR Jan-Erik

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