Problem in commissioning with AC800FR

Hello there ; I have problem that effect to prevent download whole station to cpu (AC800FR) I replaced the FI 830 with another same because that caused past error in IP with error 21000023 and when i replace it now new message is appear (wrong station type)then when I (off all and on power)the new message (incompatible DMS version )so what can I do with this recent case and how can I solve the previous error caused by original FI830 F THAT CAUSED IP ERROR .
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mohammed_eng1983 Rank: 3765

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FI830 is the Profibus DP module, right? Seems you have to flash the correct firmware version to this module.

If you replace the AC800F main unit, you have to flash the controller firmware too.
1. Start-->...-->Freelance-->Configure

If you want to flash the controller:
2. "Controller-Firmware-Update"
3. enter both IP's (you call it ac800f-R-, so I assume it's a redundant one)
4. double check the IP's (you don't want flash the wrong station!)
5. "load"
6. wait until the controllers are up again

If you want to flash the Profibus Modules
7. "Profibus-Modul Firmware-Update"
7. enter both IP's
8. double check the IP's
9. "load"
10. wait. Should be much faster than the controller one.

After this you should be able to "load whole station"

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by b.schliessmann Rank: 168 on 8/27/2020 11:26:46 PM | Like (0) | Report

It should suffice flashing the replaced CPU module and/or Profibus module.

by mohammed_eng1983 Rank: 3765 on 8/28/2020 1:03:41 AM | Like (0) | Report

Thanks for your reply... the AC800FR work with no any error in leds and redundant work naturally but when I try to go commessioning in control builder f I saw (incompatible DMS version )beside the CPU in block function and I fail to load whole station and the HW view show all in red shape .

by Ordoban Rank: 30 on 8/28/2020 1:38:58 AM | Like (1) | Report

"incompatible DMS version" means "incompatible firmware version". CBF refuses to "load whole station" until the firmware version does match. So you have to flash the controller firmware like i described above.
The controlers are new spare parts, right? So Its good the led's show normal state, but there is nothing running in this controllers.
It is also no surprice the HW view show all red - the project is not loaded to the controller, so the HW view cannot display project related states.

by mohammed_eng1983 Rank: 3765 on 8/28/2020 5:18:36 AM | Like (0) | Report

Thanks for your deep clear answer ... I want to ask about when i try to open (pro file ) i surprise about message that appear (error in opening project) and then i can not open this project .I searched about that in here ABB discusion and I applied what they said (reinstall the CBF but they dont work with this problem )
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by Ordoban Rank: 30 on 8/28/2020 5:43:12 AM | Like (1) | Report

How is the .pro file gone broken?
During a CBF crash? In this case there should be a .bak file, rename this file to .zip, extract the backup .pro file from this zip.
During CBF upgrade? You cannot open an old .pro file with an new CBF. The version of the .pro file must match the CBF version. For upgrading there is a special procedure.
If this file gone broken due disk errors, you are lost.

by mohammed_eng1983 Rank: 3765 on 8/28/2020 2:13:26 PM | Like (0) | Report

So what can I do with old FI830FR that I replaced with new . The old problem when I on HW in CBF and show the AC800FR if I click on profibus module FI830FR from tree this will show me IP2 with tick OK but IP1 ERROR 21000023
and the main cpu run with orange led of prim/sec and the redundant with red led prim/sec . Toggle didn't do anything this case make me decision to replace old with new profibus module ,so any way to restore this module ?
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by Ordoban Rank: 30 on 8/29/2020 11:38:26 AM | Like (0) | Report

Do you know there is a handbook, who describe everything including the meaning of those LED's? 3BDD012501-111_A_en_Freelance_Mounting_and_Installation_AC_800F_Controller.pdf chapter 5.3.3

Prim/Sec LED on Primary:
• Off No redundancy configured
• Green static Synchronous operation, normal state in redundancy mode.
• Green flashing Unsynchronized operation, transitional state, occurs when data
are being matched with those of the Secondary.
• Orange static Redundancy configured, no Secondary found. Secondary
failed or error occurred during redundant operation.
• Red static Error occurred in redundancy mode .

So Surprise: redundancy is not aviable, because all working FI830 is required for redundancy.

You asked what is needed to replace the FI830 module? We already told you:
Flash the profibus module firmware. You even can use a spare controller to do this procedure - as T.R. already told.

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Ordoban Rank: 30

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To bypass the loading of the entire station, you work best with a reserve CPU.
Insert the Profibus card to be initialised into a reserve CPU and run the flashing of the firmware there.
Then the FI830 card can be used easily in the target controller.
Make sure that you are using the right CBF version for flushing.
Best way you are using origin CBF station connected only to your reserve CPU to avoid loading wrong station.

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T.R.

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