800xA for advant with special type circuit
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Our project is Advant controller HMI upgrading with out replace controllers. We have 3 AC450. PLC Programming is done by special Type Circuit. I shared Type circuit list picture in exist application builder.
We create MB300 network and define all node and upload from controller done successful.
But we can't find mot_410 in control structure. Its predictable because in object type structure we have just standard function (for example MB300 Motor, MB300 valve,...) but mot_410 (and other type) is user define type.
for this reason I think we have to define mot_410 in Object type structure matched with type that downloaded to controller. Please guide me for this problem.
Our project is Advant controller HMI upgrading with out replace controllers. We have 3 AC450. PLC Programming is done by special Type Circuit. I shared Type circuit list picture in exist application builder.
We create MB300 network and define all node and upload from controller done successful.
But we can't find mot_410 in control structure. Its predictable because in object type structure we have just standard function (for example MB300 Motor, MB300 valve,...) but mot_410 (and other type) is user define type.
for this reason I think we have to define mot_410 in Object type structure matched with type that downloaded to controller. Please guide me for this problem.
Asked 6 months ago
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Hi
Type circuit is not a real object in AC450. Type circuit does not have own DB element, therefore RTA board cant recognize it.
Even Type circuit is not visible in AC450 On-line builder. Item designation of Type circuit is the Item designation of its first inner PC element.
In other words Type circuit is reusable group of PC elements enclosed inside virtual borders having virtual inputs and outputs visible only in Function Chart Builder.
Assuming existing HMI is using other objects for Type circuits visualisation like DIC, DOC, DAT, AIC etc.
Basically you have 2 options
either you can reproduce solution from existing HMI like using DIC, DOC, DAT. AIC grouped at PG2 popup graphics separately for each Type circuit instance,
or
you can use PLC connect for example to built objects based on elementary signals from each Type circuit.
Second option is more time consuming.
Type circuit is not a real object in AC450. Type circuit does not have own DB element, therefore RTA board cant recognize it.
Even Type circuit is not visible in AC450 On-line builder. Item designation of Type circuit is the Item designation of its first inner PC element.
In other words Type circuit is reusable group of PC elements enclosed inside virtual borders having virtual inputs and outputs visible only in Function Chart Builder.
Assuming existing HMI is using other objects for Type circuits visualisation like DIC, DOC, DAT, AIC etc.
Basically you have 2 options
either you can reproduce solution from existing HMI like using DIC, DOC, DAT. AIC grouped at PG2 popup graphics separately for each Type circuit instance,
or
you can use PLC connect for example to built objects based on elementary signals from each Type circuit.
Second option is more time consuming.
Answered 6 months ago
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Kamil is correct about TypeCircuits. They are just standard AMPL code inside a "black box" - so they use standard Database elements. Either a single MMCX or multiple DAT elements. IIRC you already posted questions about this type circuit and it uses multiple DAT elements.
- Start by looking at the Advant OS graphics and figure out how they work.
- You will probably need to make your own special graphic elements for this motor type
- You do not need PLC connect for this, but you will need to use "Late Binding" functions to collect data from more than one DAT element and you will need to work out how to identify the correct elements used by each motor. The Advant Displays and Display elements will tell you this. However, you might find PLC connect easier.
This is not a task for a beginner.
Where did the Type Circuit come from ? Was it delivered by ABB and is it shared by other sites ? Is there already a working solution available ?
- Start by looking at the Advant OS graphics and figure out how they work.
- You will probably need to make your own special graphic elements for this motor type
- You do not need PLC connect for this, but you will need to use "Late Binding" functions to collect data from more than one DAT element and you will need to work out how to identify the correct elements used by each motor. The Advant Displays and Display elements will tell you this. However, you might find PLC connect easier.
This is not a task for a beginner.
Where did the Type Circuit come from ? Was it delivered by ABB and is it shared by other sites ? Is there already a working solution available ?
Answered 6 months ago
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