Replace RTA board PU519 with PU515 - HP UX 10.20 Station HP B2600
I have a PU515 in a HP station B2600 with advacommand.
The hard disk has crached but the last backup I have was made with a PU519 (I'm new in the factory and i don't know why...).
Problem, when i install the backup hard disk in the station, it boots, ask me about node config, cold or warm start... Then a window appears saying wait a few minutes, app starting. But the app never starts and the station starts again from HP UX last line command then node config,... again and again...
I tested the station with a backup from an other station using a PU515 board and it starts normally.
Is it normal that the app doesn't start because of the wrong RTA board?
How can I "install" the PU515 borad in my backup disk?
Can I save my application from the 1st disk and send it to the other? I think I just need to change the IP adress for Xwindow after that. Am I right?
What's the easier way?
PU519 is DCN (ie MOD300 not Master) with USB port for large operator keyboard if I remember correct?
PU515 is Master without USB port; but could be made MOD by replacing onboard module.
I may be wrong on some part I'm afraid, but what I'm more confident over is the USB port missing on PU515. B2600 has onboard USB so additional USB port is not required (which the older HP station B180L second generation required when HP dropped ISA support in favor of USB forcing development of USB operator keyboard).
On Master OS removing the /etc/kbdlang file trigger HP-UX to query for keyboard at next boot; maybe this is the only thing needed when going between RTA with or without USB?
On Master OS, activating the /products/log/dcSystem.log (as per instruction inside an inactive log file) could reveal cause for problem.
Regional ABB support should be able to assist you.
I assume you have a Backup of your configurable data ?
There are PCI RTA boards with and without USB port available:
• PU514: RTA board with DCN (MOD) communication, no USB port
• PU518: RTA board with DCN (MOD) communication and one USB port
• PU515: RTA board with MB300 (Master) communication, no USB port
• PU519: RTA board with MB300 (Master) communication and one USB port
On the B2000 and B2600 workstations, that have built-in USB ports, you normally connect
your keyboards to the USB ports on the workstation itself and therefore you install the PU514 or
PU515 RTA boards, without USB port.
But you can replace those boards with the PU518 or PU519 RTA boards if available.
There is though a main difference with the PCI bus intefaces, the PCI bridge, on those boards.
The PU514/515 RTA boards use the Tundra Qspan chip while the PU518/519 use an Intel PCI
bus bridge. Those different bridges need different RTA board device files. At loading time the
right device file is loaded into the system.
So, if you just replace the RTA board with the other type then the system will not work (Master
up and including version 1.8/5)! In Master version 1.8/6 the device files are always loaded at
startup of the workstation. Also MOD systems always load device files every time at startup.
In this case you have to reload your system to get the right device file for the replacing RTA
Then you restore your configurable data.
Thanks for your so precise answers Stefan and Ronny. I hoped it was just an usb problem but i think Ronny is wright.
I am a newby with ABB systems and I need to know what you mean, Ronny, with "reload your system" (reinstall adavcommand and advabuild with the CD? - I hope i can find it...) and "configurable data" (does it contains scada informations like views, tags, users...? - And how can I backup this? I have a Hard Disk backup with complete installation with the wrong RTA board... Can I copy the "configurable data" from this HD?)
I read this document since monday and I ask you, experts, if it can realy help me? Maybe you could telle me the chapters i had to read.
Are you using Master or MOD300?
PU515/PU519 indicates Master, but you reference a MOD300 document on SolutionsBank?
The most recent version of Master OS (1.8/6) features a boot time script which will automatically adjust device files as per currently found RTA in the PCI slot:
[extract from /etc/rc.log]
Creating RTA devices
Output from "/sbin/rc1.d/S880dcRTADevices start":
The S880dcRTADevices script calls a number of other scripts and internal functions that will take care of the business to adapt between different RTA types.
"Backup of OS Configurable Data" is a function you can call from the Station Backup feature. With such a backup at hand, you can quickly reload the complete station from DAT-tape/CD and subsequently restore more or less everything from the "OS Configurable Data" backup.
Display Transfer is another function you might use; as long as some other station on the network has the displays, you can easily transfer them to a freshly loaded station.
Make a fresh install, connect to Ethernet network of other Advant Stations and use Display Transfer to load the process graphics.
Salvaging bad device files should be possible; but you will need skills in HP-UX command line language and a friendly/skilled support engineer on the other side of the telephone line.
If you could offer VPN connection, remote support might be possible. A laptop on WiFi or 3G/4G installed with TeamViewer (with VPN addition, remember to enable at install time) and a patch cable to the Advant Station's Ethernet port should do the job. 56kbit/s line speed will be more than twice required to do the job.
But you must ask regional ABB to provide you with a support case ID first before escalation can take place.
Ok, but i still don't understand what does mean "reload a station"...
I have looked for things that could help me:
- I found tapes and HD from stations with PU515 communicating with the same PLCs, but with other displays
- I found tapes and HD from my station but with the wrong PU519
- I have no tape or HD from my station with a PU515...
- I have no CDs from the original installation...(Bad?)
- The version is MASTER AdvaCommand 1.8-4SP2 with APC
I send a attached picture of the "station backup" mode i can access.
Is there a function, in this mode, to "reload the station"?
Wouldn't it be easier to copy the entire disk of a station with PU515 (If it's possible...) and then restore Configurable Data of the correct station?
Does it exists a documentation which can help me?
My holidays start tomorrow, so if i can't restore the station this afternoon it waits until next month.
If you are able to send me the correct documentation, it would be more helpfull. So I could read it before my next try.
I think it would be my last question
Be careful with the APC option!
Reloading from CD or DAT tape will not allow you to load APC.
The APC option was probably delivered on separate tape which you will need after reload of product unless you have a "Backup of OS Configurarable data" available; the backup contains the API display elements and dialogs.
The standard 1.8/4 product tape or CDROM can still be ordered from ABB Process Automation, but I don't know about the APC tape; I suggest speaking with a representative from ABB Power Generation about the APC option.
Maybe a friend here on AKS can provide you with a copy; duplicating DAT tapes is just a matter of knowing your "dd" command in UNIX... :-)