How to open and use DB and PC source codes and access to the graphical view of AMPL source codes

Hello,

I typed the DUMP DataBase and PC Source Code commands (DUDBS & DUPCS) in our old MS-DOS based industrial computer called MasterAid 220 and gathered .AA files such as "PCSC0101.AA" from SRCE folder in the destination "C:\ROOT\*******\RMC_001" as you see in the picture " MS-DOS folders.jpg". I also copied files like "BSC01.BAX" and "BSC01.LS2" from DBDATA folder and files like "PCSC0101.AAX" from PCDATA folder in the same directory. Then I copied these source files on the floppy disk and transfered them to the new laptop with CBA software.

But for example when I open PCSC0101.AAX with Control Builder A 1.3 software I see a "text" file that is attached. So I have a few questions:

1-I am collecting true files or another directory and files should be copied?

2- I can't see a graphical view of these codes like "AMPL document printout examlpe.png" picture attached. Can I access to a graphical view of the process control program and graphicaly edit and change it?

3-Is there any need to convert or upgrade these PC and DB data to a newer version useble in the CBA software? If Yes, How?

4- How can we have an integrated project file that contains these sub-blocks (DB & PC) like Control Builder A project files?

Best Wishes,

Mojtaba

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Hi!

Q1:

What you need is the source code files, located in the SRCE folder. Copy all .AA and .BA files. If you have them, you don´t need anything else.

Q2:

Create a new project in Application Builder (same type of target system). Paste all previously named files into the SRCE folder.

From APB, convert .AA and .BA to .AAX and .BAX.

Open Function Chart Builder, and backtranslate, first the database and then the programs.

Q3:

No!

Q4:

If you´ve followed the theese steps, you now have an integrated project.

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by mojtabasadeghi44 Rank: 655 on 8/9/2015 11:46:05 PM | Like (0) | Report

Hello,
I dumped DB and PC source codes from ABB MasterPiece 200/1 CPU with .AA and .BA extensions. I created a new project in Control Builder A 1.3 software and copied the .BA and .AA codes in the SRCE folder of the created projct and converted them into .AAX and .BAX files. But after initialization and Backtranlation I viewed bellow error in the output:
"
Processing D:\MY_ABB_PROJECT_FILES\TEST2\TEST22\nodes\RMC5\DBDATA\BSC01.BAX
Pass 1: OK
Pass 2: OK
Processing D:\MY_ABB_PROJECT_FILES\TEST2\TEST22\nodes\RMC5\PCDATA\PCSC0101.AAX: Errors detected
Processing D:\MY_ABB_PROJECT_FILES\TEST2\TEST22\nodes\RMC5\PCDATA\PCSC0301.AAX: Errors detected
Processing D:\MY_ABB_PROJECT_FILES\TEST2\TEST22\nodes\RMC5\PCDATA\PCSC0401.AAX: Errors detected
Processing D:\SOURCE_DB_AND_PC_OF_NAVARD350\MY_ABB_PROJECT_FILES\TEST2\TEST22\nodes\RMC5\PCDATA\PCSC0501.AAX: Warnings detected
Processing D:\MY_ABB_PROJECT_FILES\TEST2\TEST22\nodes\RMC5\PCDATA\PCSC0601.AAX: Errors detected
Processing D:\MY_ABB_PROJECT_FILES\TEST2\TEST22\nodes\RMC5\PCDATA\PCSC0701.AAX: OK
The following PC program(s) have not been backtranslated (see the according LS1 files for more info):
1, 3, 4, 6
For details select Edit/Process Conflict menu item or press F4
"
1-what is wrong?
2- How can I fix the errors and watch a graphical representation of the AMPL code and understand its logic?

Regards,
Mojtaba

by MyMe Rank: 10423 on 8/9/2015 11:52:43 PM | Like (0) | Report

When you get errors, normally a file (one for each program) with extension .AE is created. Open those files with AS100 Viewer! (or just press F4).

But I doubt that this will help you much. If I´m not mistaken you´re working with with some kind of rolling mill since the node is named "RMC5". If so, you need the RMC library installed as an addition to FCB.

by mojtabasadeghi44 Rank: 655 on 8/10/2015 6:59:19 AM | Like (0) | Report

could you explain more?
what do you mean about 'RMC library '?
How can I add it to FCB?
I heared that only DB and PC files with .aa anf .ba extensions is enough, is n't it?

by MyMe Rank: 10423 on 8/10/2015 7:16:41 AM | Like (0) | Report

If you´re working with a RMC application, you´ll probably discover that the system contains PC elements that are not part of a standard system. You´ll have to load the system extension files into APB/FCB using setupaddons.exe. Otherwise you cannot backtranslate them into FCB.

Check the errors and compare to a standard manual. If you find PC elements in the code that are not described in a manual, they likely come from such an extension.

Type SHTARG in ONB, and let me see the answer!

by mojtabasadeghi44 Rank: 655 on 8/15/2015 2:48:38 AM | Like (0) | Report

Thanks. But How can I load the system extension files into APB/FCB using setupaddons.exe ? I have Setup Add-Ons 6.3-1.exe in utilities of CBA 1.3 software. After I run it and select "copy and compile" I should choose an additional library.
1- Which library is not installed?
2- I installed all of files were in the destination "C:\AdvaBNT\FCB\63r1\Bin32" and the files QMP26040.PEL, QMP24040.PEL, QMP28040.PEL in the destination "C:\AdvaBNT\FCB\63r1\Bin32\pc_lib" but yet the problem is not solved. what is wrong?

3- What do you mean about standard manual? Can I have it?

my email is mojtabasadeghi44@yahoo.com

4- About your request of show target response :
#UHR
#
#SHTARG
Target Systen Identity:
QMP260 SU*6.0/4 *02/01/05/

AB QMV800 SUW*6.0/2 (1/1)
RMC1 SW*2.2/1 (1/1)
LHSE53 SW*1.0/1 (1/1)
Network, node: 15, 4

Best regards,
Mojtaba

by admin Rank: 37 on 8/16/2015 6:40:15 PM | Like (0) | Report

pls add comment,above text was reported by you three time ? Shall we remove or edit text. pls let us know which text to be moderated.
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by mojtabasadeghi44 Rank: 655 on 8/16/2015 10:54:53 PM | Like (0) | Report

Oh, surrey, I reported you because a long time passed but no body answered me.

by mojtabasadeghi44 Rank: 655 on 8/17/2015 6:12:25 AM | Like (0) | Report

Dear MyMe,
I saw in some of manuals that "AMPL PC and DB Element Libraries 3.3/0" is only compatible with "Function Chart Builder 6.3/0" but our software in CBA 1.3 is "Function Chart Builder 6.3/1". Also I saw that while running setup of "AMPL PC and DB Element Libraries 3.3/0" the error "The version comparison failed. The setup will not terminate." occures. I guess that these versions are not compatible and it is the reason of error while opening some PC elements of AMPL source code in FCB environment.
1-Am I right?
2-If yes, could you please send to my email the setup of Function Chart Builder 6.3/0?
I installed alot of .PED & .TED files but the problem exits yet. I selected "copy and compile" menu for installing. Our system is MasterPiec 200/1.

3- Do you know which file should be installed and where is it's directory in installed software?

by MyMe Rank: 10423 on 8/17/2015 9:27:13 AM | Like (0) | Report

I don't think its a problem with versions. You have an RMC application, and the only ones that can help you, are ABB Metals.

by mojtabasadeghi44 Rank: 655 on 8/18/2015 1:44:17 AM | Like (0) | Report

Thanks.
Do you have an email of somebody who can help me?
do you still belive that installation of afew .PED & .TED files failed?

by mojtabasadeghi44 Rank: 655 on 8/26/2015 12:16:35 AM | Like (0) | Report

Dear MyMe,
I'm waiting for your response. Could you answer me, please ?

by MyMe Rank: 10423 on 8/26/2015 3:38:00 AM | Like (0) | Report

Unfortunatly I have no good official references to share with you. I still have some connections within ABB Metals, but I doubt that they want to assist anyone outside the official ways of doing buisness. My advice to you is to contact your local ABB represenatives and explain your problem to them.

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